Africa - What is everyone's problem?

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Posted by Margarit Constantinescu

Friday 31 July 2009 1:51:31 pm

I feel like I miss something!

There are so many pitches concerned with Africa's poverty in the context of climate change and ecological problems.

Africa as far as I know is the greenest continent on Earth and it is nowhere near Europe's contamination, toxic waste, CO2 emissions, etc.

Africa has the highest percentage of wild life surface in the world. Because there is almost no industry there are almost no toxic emissions. So far Africa is a victim of our contamination.

According to the judge panel criteria, his competition is about changing the world by improving the environment.

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Posted by Margarit Constantinescu

Friday 31 July 2009 2:16:36 pm

There is one project Solar Cook by ID cook where there is a suggestion to Africans to use a lens to cook and not fire wood.

I would suggest this gentlemen to imagine what is like to be a poor African woman who has to feed five hungry children with two potatoes and instead of using wood fire for half an hour she must struggle for two hours with an European invention on which she must spend her half year earnings.

Meanwhile this very gentleman is driving his car in Europe to work for an hour burning fuel, cooks his meal on a gas stove, heats his home with gas exhausting 20 times more toxic emissions than the poor African lady's wood fire.

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Posted by Gilles Gallo

Friday 31 July 2009 3:07:15 pm

Dear Mrs,

Obviously you don't know a lot about solar cooking and no more about our company and its philosophy.

First of all, solar cooking allow temperature of 250°C almost immediatly. The idea of promoting solar cooking in Africa is not at all about asking African people to do what European don't. Even if the solar cooking is environmentaly friendly it is also economicaly very good for low revenues families of developing countries. Now days, the cookers that we sell are , too much expensive for African consumer because there were made for European market with the idea of replacing traditionnal barbecues (which use gascharacoal,electricity) by solar cookers which use only the sunlight as source of power.

So for an African woman, it won't take longer at all to use a solar cooker comparing with a fire wood cooking. And moreover, she won't have to spend a third of her time to pick up the wood (the countryside situation) or a third of the family revenue to buy it (the urban situation). So solar cooking will not take her longer and will allow her to save money. (not using wood) The cooker that we want to develop for African people will be adapted to the specific african market so the price will be much more lower than the cookers that you can find at the moment on our website (which were made for european market).

This specific solar cooker as also the objective of being partly produced and assembled in Africa so it will contribute to create employement and to transfer our knowledge about solar cookers to Africans.

To conclue, no one inside the company is using a car to go working, we all use subway or velib' (which is a service of bike rental inside Paris) to go working.

We would be very pleased to see you once in Paris and to cook you the meal of your choice with one of our solar cooker so you can see how it works and i'm sure you would be impressed.

Sunny Regards

ID COOK's Team

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Posted by Norman Davison

Friday 31 July 2009 3:22:31 pm

Despite your rather windy repost, Margarite is right !this is a bloody silly idea, and is an insult to Africa . Cooking by mirrors ideed ! Bah Humbug to you sir !

A few day ago, I fell on the floor with uncontrollable laughter, a totaly daft man was writing about showing Africa Sustainability . I have got news for you the african Knew all about sustainability long before the White man presumed to teach him a better way.

The masai have for centuries, taken blood from the cow and mixed it with milk. Pure Cholestrol Good for the Body .! ( despite what The chemical-doctor Says)
What do you get if you kill the cow, a couple of meals before it starts to rot in the African sun .


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Posted by Alex Hanganu

Friday 31 July 2009 4:01:13 pm

Dear Gilles,

Your lifestyle (car or no car) costs the environment 100 times more than the African lady's (included her small wood fire).
Why do we not concentrate on ourselves and keep wanting to "civilise" Africa? We did enough of that in the last 300 years.
The evironmental problems are here, in the 1st world, let's not look for excuses elsewhere.

I am sure your cooker is great. Good luck with it.

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Posted by Thierry Le Clercq

Friday 31 July 2009 4:07:28 pm

Paul Kagame of Rwanda, who has instigated a program of greening and terracing the formerly deforested slopes of his hilly country. Kagame is no tree hugger. Thanks in part to the environmental policies he has put in place, he has presided over economic growth of 10% per year for more than a decade. His plea for dealing with climate change is a hard-headed one. Rwanda has learned to recognize the economic power of ecosystem services.
To enable other developing nations to harness this economic power, we will need a slew of financial mechanisms to support developing countries in both adapting to the climate change that is already inevitable, and in mitigating their emissions. We will also need to rethink the architecture of our current financial institutions. The World Bank, for example, can no longer fund old high-carbon infrastructure with its right hand, while attempting to encourage the path to a low carbon world with its left.
When it comes to economic activities, it is clearly not just possible but imperative to seek models of low carbon growth. Some essential features of this will include an urgent halt to deforestation.

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Posted by martin klute

Friday 31 July 2009 4:19:11 pm

Thierry, good point about deforestation - you can hardly be the greenest continent on the planet if you're cutting down your forests at a rate of knots.

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Posted by tatiana khawam

Friday 31 July 2009 4:23:59 pm

Well if you can help the environment, while also helping africa, I don't see where your problem lies??

Moreover having a fertile land is important.

For the record, do you think everything you eat comes from Europe? Dont you think some fruits, cocoa, agriculture comes from Africa? So you refuse to help African soil fertility?

If the enviroment issues are global, some solutions are local.

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Posted by tatiana khawam

Friday 31 July 2009 4:25:05 pm

PS: What is YOUR problem with helping Africa, while supporting a global environmental cause?

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Posted by Thierry Le Clercq

Friday 31 July 2009 4:58:36 pm

Vice President Al Gore set out his own vision for low carbon growth. For him, this is a problem of consciousness. The threat of climate change is very real, to business as much as to the public as a whole. Now we need to respond with the urgency that this threat deserves.
In this regard, Vice President Gore pointed out that China is already putting the US to shame. Each year, he said, China now plants more than twice as many trees as the rest of the world together. It has already overtaken the US as the nation with the biggest installed wind capacity. Their approach shows us the interconnectedness, not just between the problems we face, but between the solutions we can choose to follow.
Vice President Gore told us that “we can be pleasantly surprised by how quickly things can change.”
As Al Gore has said, deciding to be part of the solution is critical.

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Posted by Norman Davison

Friday 31 July 2009 5:42:14 pm

Precious thande , where is my diner ?I have been lloking after the cows all day I am tired. !
Sorry thande but you are very late and the sun has gone down !
This magic lens cooker no go well well in the dark. !
What are we going to do during the Short rains ?

I don't know I will take it back and see if I can get a refund, when we next go to Harrods ?


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Posted by Margarit Constantinescu

Friday 31 July 2009 7:15:26 pm

Mr Le Clercq,

I fully agree that deforestation is a great issue for Africa, but it is mainly due to business interests foreign to Africa not by domestic cooking.

If you want action for stopping the forest cutting look around and if you see anything made of exotic essences wood (FLOORING, FURNITURE, ETC) you might get a clue.

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 9:10:33 pm

Margarit,
I understand your concerns about Africa however you have failed to recognise the impact of the current practices have on the climate. While I was a child there are a lot of things we used to see which cannot be seen by the current generation. For example, in Uganda where the climate is tropical nobody expected the population to go hungry for even a single day. But as it appears today about 1/4 of the population are hungry and people are dying of hunger. This is a fact. It is projected that by 2050 Uganda alone which was once called the Pearl of Africa will lose all of its forests if nothing much is done about the causes which have led to the current trend of forest extinction.
For this reason, there is a cause for alarm about climate change in Africa. As much as it is appreciated that Africa is green, firewood alone which is being used by more than 90% by people in Sub-Saharan Africa needs to be checked as this will enable us to preserve the environment or else the impact Africa will have on the world would be enormous in terms of climate and poverty.

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Posted by Norman Davison

Friday 31 July 2009 9:10:39 pm

Margrit You can see the non sequiter quite easily, It is not the poor African Woman cooking with a few twigs that causes the big problem.

Also I find that exotic woods are not realy suitable for our UK Climate . We have different bugs which like to Eat them .

Export of exotics should be banned . It is simply big bucks for a bad construction choice.

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 9:15:19 pm

The desire for an African woman to change should not be under estimated. The only problem is that this person is forgotten by her country. If let us the government is able to subsidise clean energy from solar or LPG, this family would be able to cook forward for her family. With solar energy it does not mean that somebody has to harvest while cooking but the solar power can be harvested and used as more is being harvested. So let us try to look at such innovations positively than being subjective.

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 9:23:14 pm

ID COOKS Team,
This is a valuable idea, however my problem is to what extend have you managed to develop strong working relationships with African countries to enable them buy your ideas as it appears such Ideas require a political will as well. For example, us in Uganda, we are working with the government, environmental Agencies and ministry of housing and health who are so supportive about our product of using Clean energy from LPG which seems to be working well. My worry about your product though is that in case there are no African governments which are interested in this innovation, it might require you to carry out a feasibility before it is bought into. However it is a good idea which can enable an African woman to spare energy for something developmental rather than going to the bush to look for firewood. It would also create enough time for the girl child to have enough time to read rather than spending most of the weekend and evening looking for firewood. As your energy would be readily available.

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 9:45:45 pm

ID Cooks Team,
What is the conversion effeciency of your product? How available and affordable and affordable is it to the intended receipts. I know it works but wanted to know how sustainable it can be to the population who need it most.
Also just wondering how you plan to store it so if there isnt enough sunshine, the intended person can still cook food.


Emmy Wasirwa

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 9:50:50 pm

I think what is being innovated here is something which can help preserve the forests in Africa. Whether the Masai drink blood or not there is something which is forgotten about Africa. I think African continent has enough Energy from sunshine which can feed the whole world. For example recently it has been anticipated that European Union is investigating in investing €500billion in harvesting Sunshine from Africa to Europe. Now why should Africa export sunshine when itself is not able to use it.
If there is a way how Africa can generate its own clean energy through sunshine it would be the greatest innovation anybody has ever thought about. For example ID Cooks Team idea is great because the materials involved in harvesting sunshine is great but my problem with their idea is how to store the energy harvested. Come on ID Cook, we need an explanation.

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 9:57:59 pm

Alex,
Look at how much forests are being destroyed before your comment any further.


Emmy

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Posted by Emmy Wasirwa

Friday 31 July 2009 10:04:10 pm

As much as I appreciate that forest destruction in Africa is about foreigners, in terms of timber, but what you forget is that about 90% of Africans use fuelwood as a source of energy for cooking and heating. Countries such as Britain has policies which condemn importation of timber from Africa. Even if this is not effective, there is a way of curbing some of bad practices which have been used to destroy forests in Africa.

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