bob fvelev says: This sounds very interesting and a serious solution. What are the perspectives when the Real World Test at Boa Vista works fine?

Bob Evelev
Schaffhausen/CH

cherif ben ali says: as i understand your design can provide both :energy as well water .it would be very beneficial for a country such mine. tunisia?

ben cherif
project developer

gaby goeschl says: What are the key benefits of the Horizon2 implementation for Europe? How fast can a system like that be implemented?

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Mr. Bob Evelev,

I have worked recently with an Investors Group and the here provided presentation will not be satisfying for you. In one minute it is not possible to explain a global energy concept.

Your question has to be answered in three parts..

First, Hydrogen related perspectives.
Todays Hydrogen production is about 50mi tons/yr, primarily used for
gasoline production. Using fossil fuel resources for its production it
is not beneficial for our climate. With the increased need for fuel in
India and China a strong growth for the next years are predicted.

Hydrogen Production achieved only by renewable energy resources
is changing the situation. It is anticipated that the growth will increase
5-10 times of current production. Every car maker has a hydrogen car
ready to be sold. The problem, Hydrogen is still produced at a high
degree with fossil fuel. It is also not to expect that in the near future a
airbus will be powered with solar panels, as well space exploration
will not switch to e-mobility.

Second, Concept related perspectives.

All industrialized nations have decided to implement Hydrogen
Economy, the big question is, will it run on safe Wind Power or high
risky Nuclear Power. The Kyoto Treaty compliance does not give
Atomic Industry to solve their security and storage problems. In the
short term the logical decision is for a system which can gradually
grow with the depletion of fossil fuel resources, without destructive
risks and by knowing that the resources never will end.

The Design is able to be used global and can be implemented in any
existing Infrastructure. It allows to use Hydrogen in all forms, gas,
liquid and and converted to electricity.

A very important additional investment aspect is its use for other
applications, the most important among them, water production also
CO2 free.

Third, Climate or Social Cost related perspective

The availability of a zero emission production will curb all Industries
to come up with services and products based on the use of climate
compatible fuel. This process will speed up drastically with the
increase of crude oil costs. To happen soon. I am not predicting to
reverse climate change, but it would be a big step in this direction.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Mr. Ben Cherif


Yes it is right, it can be used to produce energy as well water. In parts of Tunisia the environmental conditions are similar to Boa Vista. I can see two aspects,

First, big resource users have more and more to prove that they have the needed resources. For example, in the area of Las Vegas, parts of California and the Arabic world a developer has to prove the availability of water. Yes our Design can be the most environment friendly water supply.

Second, related to news, included Tunisia will be paved with solar panels. I see the desert as an environment too, if we like it or not. Bedouins like it and part of the big history of human beings. For urbanization purposes we
reduced the creatures world, we depleted nearly the oceans and the next is the dessert. It is like with Nuclear Waste, yes we are for e-mobility as long the storage is not in my yard, at the neighbors yard it is ok.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Gaby Goeschl


The design is as beneficial as anywhere. A good example is the gas crises in the last winter season. Already after 3 weeks the supply was stretched thin. In my opinion, the biggest problem is, that our living standards depend on foreign resources. During the gas boycott, they all where crying something has to change, what has changed? The implementation of Horizon2 is able to create tens of thousands of jobs, foreign currency drain would be stopped and would help to reduce budget deficits, when distributed though the communities additional income opportunities for public services, meeting climate change and Kyoto requirements would be easily achieved. I want only to mention one more aspect. A Hydrogen Economy with Nuclear Power will bring instead Oil dependence, Atomic Power Technology dependence. As we know, Nuclear Power Resources can turn very fast into a threat when in the wrong hands. Who ever, interested to know what a disaster is should look more in detail what happened and is happening in Chernobyl, the real world test of an disaster. The decision regarding the future energy system is also a security decision. A safe, secure and affordable energy will also stop the migration problem. Energy is key to economical activities, and if the prospect for an job in the own country is given then they will not leave. This is also a aspect in Europa's interest.

I am not predicting the implementation time of a Hydrogen Mass-production which can be kept very short. A security minimum concept can be in place within months, and with guaranty it will not take all the time the proposed pipeline constructions will take.

David Pratt says: How important is it to have a new energy source like the mass-production Hydrogen?

Rgd.
David

Roman Gur`evskiy says: Dear Alfred, very interesting how you describe the prospects for using hydrogen ... I have an opinion on this technology and believe its real but not the best (cheap, safe-about transporting of liquid hydrogen, ) i believe that the future in electromagnetic motors, they has long time been there with different characteristics ... however I would like to invite you to look at the technology of hydrogen production. Technology is not new, but very cheap and effective .... http://newbreeze.do.am/news/2009-07-14-24

john harlingen says: I am in the hydrogen industry. When this can be done this will be a climate revolution, equal to, or of greater importance than, the industrial revolution. I fear it's benefits will not be understood in this forum you had to enter in. They will doing the world a favor by allowing you to explain your design and concept in greater detail. You have revolutionary solutions that would benefit every human being on this planet and should not be ignored.


John
Amsterdam/NL

florin miron says: Why is Hydrogen the future fuel?

Florin Miron
Romania

ray silverstein says: Sounds interesting, what is the expected time frame for development?


Ray Silver
Vaduz
Lichtenstein

mike Kern says: Petrochemical substances are very toxic and unhealthy. What are the health related aspects of Hydrogen?


Dr. M. Kern
Graz
Austria

Arney Wood says: This sounds promising, what kind of renewable resources are used?

Godd luck Ann

edmond cho says: I am Investor and I would be interested on further documentation of your concept. Is this available?


Edmondcho@rocketmail.com

Sincerely
Edmond Cho

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to David Pratt.

Hydrogen is needed for the gasoline production and ammonia mostly for the fertilizer market. It is also used to fuel the space shuttle. To use hydrogen as a fuel, it first has to be generated by electrolysis of water. Other methods are available too, but they are based on fossil energy resources and contribute to our climate problems. The mos beneficial production is with renewable energy resources, CO2 free. The advantages of hydrogen are not only climate related, it is worldwide available in gas, liquid, and is known very well since 100 years.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Edmond Cho.

Yes brochures and documents are available. Aditional information you will find on the Web Page or on request. Architect.Wimmer@horizon2world.com,
Vvimmerarchitect@aim.com

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to John Harlingen.

Yes it is absolutely right the given requirements do not allow to explain anything and I think it will be a big challenge for the jury to pick the most qualified one. Some participants have not read the competitions intention, one idea to change the world. Yes, the implementation of the Hydrogen Economy with renewable energy resources could become something like the Industrial Revolution, especially when available on an affordable global scale.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Ray Silverstein.

The time for its implementation may be very short. It depends on the scale of the system. As it is anticipated at Boa Vista, the time frame is 6 to 30months. When we talk about an EU emergency system it will take about 5 years. Most important, the concept has the capacity to compensate the reducing fossil fuel reserves.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Dr. Mike Kern.

When we talk about these aspects, we have to turn the question around, namely - what is Hydrogen not. in short - it is not toxic, not radioactive, not badly smelling, not endangering water resources, not carcinogenic, it is odorless, it is not poison or acid, compared to gasoline it has a different explosion behavior. Under the bottom line, Hydrogen will not cause Social Costs as fossil fuel does. CO2, Heavy metal, lead and other particulates will be significant reduced and minimize health related complications.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Arney Wood.


The Design can incorporate all renewable energy resources in one facility.

Andy Orth says: I would like to add to your list: What is Hydrogen not?
It is not easy to store and transport!

If it is cooled and stored in the liquid phase e. g. for transportation, you will always have losses due to evaporation. And the problem is not building a car that can turn 2 H and 1 O into H2O, it's storing the two in your tank without turning your car into a bomb.

And I don't think that a hydrogen economy can actually help solve the problem of supplying drinking water. In all the research I have encountered to this topic, the main problem is splitting H2O into it's components to obtain hydrogen. If you want to implement Hydrogen in a country like Tunisia, you will most certainly have to take care of the water supply first, and then use e.g. concentrated solar power to turn water into Hydrogen...

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Mr. Andy Orth.

Yes your are right, it is the laypersons science. You give yourself the answer as you write, """"" if it is cooled """"" , further on......... you turn a your car in a bomb? would you answer what is more explosive, Hydrogen or Gasoline? I did not say the Hydrogen Economy is supplying drink water, I said that the Design can be alternatively used for drink water production, which compared to common processing is CO2 free. I want to refer that Hydrogen is in safe use for over 100 years, more on I am quoting the US Department of Energy, ..........Hydrogen is a clean energy carrier (like electricity) made from diverse domestic resources such as renewable energy (e.g. solar, wind, geothermal), nuclear energy, and fossil energy (combined with carbon capture/sequestration). Hydrogen in the long-term will simultaneously reduce dependence on foreign oil and emissions of greenhouse gases and criteria pollutants. ............
When you accept all the negative by products of fossil fuel consumption it is up to you, the majority of human I know do not like it. Hydrogen is not causing Asthma, Cancer, etc. and is the need of help our climate requires.
Sorry, your point of view shortsighted and wrong.

David McNeight says: The big problem with the hydrogen economy is that it requires a totally new infrastructure on a global scale, as hydrogen does not liquefy till near Abslute Zero, We would require to be completely re-equipped with motor vehicles that can carry and run on hydrogen.

Far better, as in my entry 'Creating fuel ...' to convert this hydrogen into the conventional hydrocarbon fuels by reacting it with atmospheric CO2. That way, we don't add to the CO2 content of the atmosphere, but we have all the fuel we need without spending time we haven't got completely re-equipping the world. And there's no way airlines can run on hydrogen - last time they tried that, there was a bit of a disaster.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to David McNeight

Thank you for your response. I am aware about the common understanding and I have mentioned the Infrastructure in my Video too. Horizon2, a Economic Mass Production of Hydrogen based on Renewable Energy Resources, responds to the global recognized problem of cost reduction. This is the problem of a Hydrogen Economy and pointed out by all world wide recognized stakeholders. I clearly pointed out in my video that one of the cost redacting facts is the elimination of the infrastructure problem which also will allow me to implement the Concept in a very short time. I am not the expert of your proposal but in my understanding you put cost on top of the current hydrogen processing which already increased by the costs of fossil fuel resources. Further more, your plan is calling for the use of solar energy for fuel production. In all the time I never have heard in any Study coming from a serious resource that Solar energy is cheap. I also did not step over any Study which is in support of fuel costs of 20 cent. I also do not think the main concern is currently the cost of airline tickets. I want to refer to Mr. Ban Ki-moon who leads a task force to tackle global food crisis. ( http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=26491&Cr=food&Cr1=prices ) Already under the current crude oil price it is a big problem to take hand on the food costs. It seems to me that your low cost fuel plan is a wish which cannot keep up with the reality. Horizon2 will and can do it.

patric williams says: Patrick Williams

Is there a chance to participate in this project?

Kind regards
Patrick Williams

Frankfurt

peter mark says: Lately there are many articles in the news relating to Hydrogen. What are the best resources for more information on the Web?


Peter Mark
Amsterdam

hannes klaus says: What are the costs of Hydrogen and its competitiveness to gasoline?


Regards

Hannes Klaus
Stuttgart

Ron Gerick says: I am interested, keep me updated

RonGerick@yahoo.com


R.G.
London
UK

harald hartmann says: How can Energy secure Living Standard?


Harry / Berlin

peter maier says: What are the high lights of this new System of Hydrogen Production?


Peter Maier
Bremen

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Patric Williams

Yes, contact me - Vvimmerarchitect@aim.com

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Peter Mark

Yes, it get's public knowledge that there is no alternative, Solar technology is to expensive and it's efficiency poor, average wind power is still to expensive and inflexible and Atomic Power is simple a unsafe Technology. The most interesting aspect, it looks that the development countries are taking over the Hydrogen Initiative.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Hannes Klaus

We are able to produce Hydrogen way under current gasoline prices.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Ron Gerick

I will

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Harald Hartmann

Hydrogen basically is used and known for over 100 years. The most important
aspect, it can also be produced in the quantity, needed for all world population. All other Technologies are limited in its use and availability to poor countries.

Alfred Wimmer says: Response to Peter Maier

It is in the needed quantity, affordable costs and for all human beings worldwide available. Cost reduction of Power and Financing are the most dominant issues which we can solve with our concept of Hydrogen Mass-production.